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our, ben anyone nettenia howard expected to arrive here in the united states is minged. the democrats in washington not thrilled. they say netanyahu should have come at a different time not right ahead of his own election. also president obama was not consulted about this official visit. netanyahu trying to throw some party on this conflict keg cnn just a few hours ago, quote, this is a crucial trip even a historical one. i will be the messenger of all the people of israel including those who agree with me and those who do not agree with me. whether the white house likes it or not, he will be here in moments. also plans to speak before a joint meeting of congress on tuesday morning, minus some democratic senators and house members who are boycotting let's
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talk about it with our panel. i appreciate you both being here very much. yousef let me beagain with you, you say he's using congress as a prop and really this is purely political. at the same time can you understand why this wlaeder, who believes his nation is in grave danger, is willing to risk his relationship with the president, with the white house, to send this message very clearly to congress? >> no because it's very clear that the prime minister has all the access and ability to deliver that message at any time. the timing of this is clearly being used to further his domestic political objectives. look i think there are a number of reasons why members of congress are perfectly with this their right to not want to attend the speech including the
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fact this israeli prime minister has a history of thumbing his nose not just at the white house and this particular president, but established u.s. foreign policy in relation to israeli settlements in the west bank have chub agreed upon by republican and democratic white house administrations alining. he champions these settlements, despite the fact that the united states is opposed to them and is happy to tame billions of u.s. eight and spore and diplomatic cover. i think the question is not so much why members of congress are not attending the speech but why given all of this any members of congress are still planning to go. >> rabbi, your response? >> yousef you're not even addressing the issue. this is not about settlements or a peace process, this is an anile torrie intent on iran, the formal responsibleors of terrorism, that's repeatedly threatened to eradicate the
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jewish state, and they have lied deceived for more than a decade. iran is a oil superpower. they had neil need a nuclear program the way i need a ham sandwich. this is all about building nuclear devices, which they have stated emphatically will be used to destroy the jewish state. there are 6 million jews living in israel. we have that as kind of an eerie number. just 70iers one out of three jews on earth was gassed cremated and turned into a lampshade, so we take this very seriously. i know that protocol matters, and i know no one wants to offend the president of the united states but such considerations pale into complete and total insignificance in the -- in the wave of again oside, again oside. we've had one holocaust. that's just one too many. >> rabbi, i want you to listen to some sound from senator dianne feinstein, a jew herself, someone who is going to attend
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this address to congress but who is not fully supportive of what netanyahu has come here to do and this timing. i want you to listen to what she said on "state of the union" this morning and get your response. he says he speaks for all jews. >> he doesn't speak for me at all on this. i think it's a rather arrogant statement. i think the jewish community is like any other community. there are different points of view i think that arrogance does not befit israel candidly t. >> rabbi, your response to that? >> well arrogant or not, i think that being determine at a timed befizz us even less. are you saying you think it's a big arrogant as well? >> no i'm saying i applaud the
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senator feinstein for say that. it's a democracy, people can express her views. god bless her for expressing that view. that's the beauty of a democracy, but why is the administration trying to silence the prime minister of israel in addressing the world's most powerful assemblies. let him express his opinion. >> yousef it's interesting, because john kerry, secretary of state this morning set netanyahu -- but right now it's odd, if not unique that the administration was not included in the process. >> sure poppy, i would like to responsibility to one thing. >> i was born in the state of israel. my hometown is there, my entire family there, many of my loved ones are there, i visit frequently. if there was a true existential threat to the population there, i would have every reason to be as concerned as anyone else.
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the reality, sir, what you are engaged in and what the israeli prime minister is engaged in and going to be engaged in is threatened inflation for political grandstanding, the same he participated in in 2002, when he spoke to congress before the war on iraq and exaggerated the benefits of that war saying he guaranteed in fact enormous positive reverberations throughout the region if we took out saddam. what we ended up seeing as a result of the iraq war, what we are seeing today still is one of the most horrific things we have seen in the middle east that is isis growing out of that vacuum of power. the american people don't need any more of his bad advice. >> yousef how important, though do you think that a strong relationship between the prime minister and the president,' they have the same policy goals when it comes to iran how important is this.
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the relationship is much deeper. the divide between the understanding and israel is not just a personal one between the president of the united states and the israeli prime minister but we're seeing a significant shift? american public opinion among particular demographics including younger americans and americans from minority backgrounds which are the base of the democratic party. what this suggests is these changing attitudes, which are part of this divide that continuing to grow and are being exacerbated by the israeli prime minister are going to have lasting implications for a divide between israel and the united states that's far longer and far deeper than any two personalities at the top of hose states. yousef and rabbi, thank you very much. we'll have you throughout the program as we continue to cover this and continue to wait for
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prime minister netanyahu's plane to land. to russia have putin's critic boris nemtsov was supposed to lead an opposition really today, protesting the involvement in ukraine. he was murdered, as you know less than 48 hours today. today turned into a memorial tribute to nemtsov. tens of thousands marched through the streets. some left flowers at the shooting site on that bridge just yards from the kremlin. putin has vowed to find and pun erbil nemtsov's killer. police are looking for a male suspect they say with short hair, wearing blue jeans and a brown sweater. authorities say he likely used a russian-made pistol. to tell you more about this man, boris nemtsov and his life. who was he? he was born in sochi, russia back in 1959 science was his passion. the brash young physicist
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protested plans to build a nuclear plant in the late '80s. he leapt into politics won a seat in the parliament at just age 29. three years later he became the first governor of a prosperous area just outside of moscow. his political star was rising pretty fan. then boris yeltsin named himself the first deputy prime minister. everything crashed when putin took over. he was booted from government in 2003 and that is when he really embraced political opposition groups. he was arrested a number of times for criticizing putin. in recent years, he rurpd to the hometown of sochi to study the funding of the olympics h el blasted the olympics saying most of the money was -- >> this is the most expensive games in the history of mankind, the most corrupted olympic games. my estimation is that still about 25 to 30 billion u.s.
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russian opposition leader boris nemtsovs on aligned with western journalists to share his fierce criticism of putin. he was shot as you know four times in the back just days before he was set to lead a rally in moscow opposing putin's government and policies. my next guest met nemtsov in several occasions. michael weiss, thank you for being with us. >> sure. >> you two were in estonia in 2013. what can you tell me about that conversation?
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>> well he was quite keen on expanding the nagnitsky act, a u.s. law that was passed recently back then anyway that sought to impose visa bans and freeze the assets of russian officials, named after a famous -- well now famous russian tax attorney who exposed a $230 million tax fraud perpetrated by members of the russian government. he was then railroaded by the very people he exposed for the crime that he exposed. so nemtsov was very keen on, you know the main bulwarks of his work since 2000 has been to expos rampant russian, he named names, people involved in the sochi olympics he considered one of the most notorious and expanse i was acts of theft, not coincidentally some of the people he named wound up on u.s. sanctions over the invasion of
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ukraine. if you look at what the treasury department had to say, the money and figures they cited often -- so he actually still was a relevant opposition leader despite what the kremlin is saying he was cast aside and -- >> what do you think the ultimate goal was? >> i think nemtsov had a true russian liberals. he was always seen somewhat warily which now in retrospect to what the putin government has gotten up to seems a bright shining gift to the russian people i would submit. it is true though that he believed in expanding freedom and democracy in russia. he was one of the earliest anatomyists if you like of the regime being built. it wasn't until about 2004 or '05 that people in the west began to open their eyes and see what putin was about. remember the infamous meeting
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with george w. bush i looked into hi soul he said the idea there could be normalized relations with shall individual it always struck nemtsov as fanciful. i he he got the cut of his jib early on. >> typically the high-profile opposition leader jailings murders, even poisonings that typically, putin has been pretty quiet. this time very quickly hours later after we got the statement from putin directly to nemtsov's mother condemning the killing say 4th will hunt down the killer. does this difference in reaction surprise you? >> yes, and it actually worries me a lot. when putin names people by name it usually indicates something bad is going to happen. let's be very clear. whatever did transpire a few days ago the russian government's role in this crime
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has been established. in that the president of russia has said he is personally going to oversee the -- in what law-abiding country would this be deemed feasible? all right implicated or suggested the motive and method. third, state media, which is already paranoid and his tesh al to begin with the ones control by the russian intelligence services have already defamed the victim. they says nemtsov was killed baas his ukrainian girlfriend he had to get an abortion in switzerland and there was a jealous ex-love or he ran afoul of one of the compatriots, the state department or the cia. this whole thing -- nobody believes -- even inside the regime at this point, nobody believes there will be a credible investigation that there's going to be any kind of
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free and transparent trial here. whatever happens, you know what do you say about a country where a public officials can be murdered right in front of the main government building and everybody already knows the results. the perpetrator will never, ever be found. this is a dire state of affairs for russia. >> michael, thank you. appreciate the perspective and historical context. boris nemtsov did sit down with our anthony boyerurdain. listen. the relationship with putin and his people around, right? a good relationship with governor, it doesn't matter -- while you have a chance to raise money, to be successful you know to buy real estate in the south of france or in
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switzerland, to open accounts in swiss banks, et cetera but if something happened between you and putin or you and your governor, you would be in jail. and your company is dismant the. >> we're going to show you the rest of that interview. it's never been aired before. it's going to be aired tonight right here on cnn for the first time 7:30 the bourdain special, boris nemtsov. benjamin netanyahu has just landed in washington, d.c. our elice labott traveled with him. can you hear me? >> i can, poppy. >> what can you tell me about the trip over here and what else we may have heard from the prime minister? >> basically it was a long flight. the prime minister we're told really holed up in his cabin working on his speech to
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congress really working on that speech. israeli officials briefed reporters. listened the prime minister will come out and lay the elements of the deal he understands. officials said listen we know a lot about this deal and we believe it's a bad deal. the prime minister is going to lay out to congress the elements of what he knows. he believes that congress does not understand what's going on with this deal and he wants to say why he thinks it's not only a threat to the israel but to the u.s. and to the world. we also understand he's going to urge congress to pressure the administration to push back that march 24th deadline for a political agreement, because he feels that there needs to be more time for questioning about this deal. also understands the political fought tone of the trip he spoke with the secretary of state last night, saying listen the prime minister is not trying
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to pick a fight. he respects the president and the understand united states and he wants to make sure this is not a bad agreement. he's not against any agreement, but this agreement from what he knows is too many compromises in iran's favor. >> can el ask you, elise, if you believe that the tone is changing a bit, and this morning on abc, the secretary of state john kerry said that, you know netanyahu is welcome to address congress the timing is odd and frankly odd that he didn't consult the administration beforehand a much calmer set of words, and much different tone than what we just heard from susan rise a few days ago, cattle it destruct i have to the fabric of the relationship. do you sense a change? >> reporter: i think there is a slight change in tone. as far as the u.s. is concerned, is the attention that they gave
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to this address and the criticism that they gave of the prime minister only kind of fueled the interests in this speech and they have these agreements with iran. they kind of want to take the wind out of his sails now i think. they're trying to lower the tone lower the rhetoric and for prime minister netanyahu, he understands how important the relationship is with the your honor. he has his problems with obama, but he understands this relationship is too big to fail. he knows that the day after israel is still going to be needing to work with the united states on these iran talks, so i think after this speech you'll see the tone lower, a bit, but march 24th deadline is coming up and it's that agreement does take place, elise labott who just traveled to washington, d.c. with benjamin netanyahu on the plane, we'll continue this
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coverage. up next this new video may being also ade knew details on the hunt for jihadi john and what may have led him to join the terror group.
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it is the first sighting of a group of british teens since they disappeared from london
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just two weeks ago. take a look at this. this is surveillance video from turkey. it shows the three missing girls believed to be boarding a bus in istanbul. authorities believe they have already crossed into syria already. both counter intelligence officials and the parents have try to do persuade them to return home. this may be another example of the isis propaganda machine. let's discuss it. thank you very much for being with me. it is incredible to see how effective the isis propaganda machine has become not only targeting young men, clearly targeting young women as well. why do you think it's so effective? >> it's interesting. these are british female muslims. british citizen. i was a british muslim schoolgirl too, they are going seduced into the narrative. they're wearing pseudoarab gulf
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dress with sneakers something that appeals to british youth tremendously. i think this is entirely a choice. i've just returned from london a few hours ago, and the british public is mortified not just by these girls, but also by the discovery of the discovery of jihadi john. there's a lot of hand wringing in britain. this is a choice. these are individuals selecting to pursue what they think will be some kind of adventure, some kind of ideal purpose. it's very difficult to combat. worth noting are the parents of these british muslim girls, completely flabbergasted, ethnically the girls look to me of bangladeshi heritage too, so this cuts across all sectors. mohammed emwazi was a kuwaiti in origin. it cuts gender demographics and
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national origins. >> and it's not only happening in europe. i want you to listen to the director of the fbi talking about just how vast the fight against this recruitment is right now. listen. >> isil in particular is putting out a siren song through their slick propaganda through social media that goes like this -- troubled soul come to the caliphate. you will live a life of glory these are the apocalyptic end times. you will find a life of meaning here. and if you can't come kill something where you are. right? that is a message that goes out to troubled souls everywhere resonates with troubled souls, people seeking meaning in some horribly misguided way. those people exist in every state. i have home-grown violent extremist investigations in every single state. >> in every single u.s. state. >> yeah. >> does that surprise you?
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>> not at all. when i listen to director comey, his words are eerily resonant of the accounts i heard three or four years ago from pakistani boys how they were introduced into taliban operations. it's the same story. it was the same story ten years ago when it was luring al qaeda and it's probably going to be a similar story if you interviewed someone from boko haram. it's not just the story. it's the medium. we are not in an era of unprecedented social media, which is uncubating this much more rapidly than anything ever seen and transcending all kinds of boundaries, national and otherwise. >> dr. ahmed, thank you for joining me. we'll continue to discuss and focus it on this show. >> my pleasure pop,. prime minister benjamin innocentenia hue has landed in d.c. not everyone is happy about it. >> so i think arrogance does not befit israel. >> the latest on his trip and
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prime minister netanyahu just landed and is expected to locky congress for real action on iran also appealing for support from the american people and pushing back against the potential nuclear deal that he opposed. he does not clearly trust that iran will hold up its end of any bargain that may be reached by the end of the month. the lead-up to this trip has been increasing in heated rhetoric. >> the prime minister and i have a very real difference around iran iran sanctions. it does make sense to sour the
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negotiations a month or two before they're about to be completed. what's the rush? >> the idea that the speaker of the house would invite mr. netanyahu to congress without consulting president obama is i think a very, very bad idea. >> i'm going to the united states not because i seek a confrontation with the president, but because i must fill fill my obligation to speak up on a matter that affects the very survival of my country. >> if you boycott this speech if a significant number of members of the senate and house boycott that speech that message will be healed to israel ace enemies, but also to our allies. >> i think arrogance does not befit israel candidly. >> the animosity between the white house an the prime minister is no secret here in this town but -- >> they made it worse? >> they certainly made it worse over the last five or six weeks.
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frank will you remarkable to me the extent to which the last five or six weeks, the white house has attacked the prime minister attacked me for wanting to hear from one of our closeers allies. >> you just heard the response from a number of parties. it is mixed. joining muss is ben furling son and mark la moment hill. ben, first your response i want to read more of the quote of what boehner said on "face the nation" on cbs this morning. he also said the white house feels threatened baas the congress wants to support israel. is that the way you read it? >> i think there's an awful lot of spokes in congress for this. if there wasn't, they wouldn't be having this joins session doinchts agree that you feel the white house feels threatened. >> i think they field threatened anytime they're not in charge and they don't like the fact that israel may be coming in and telling some blunt and bold statements about iraq when they're trying to make this the
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all calm cool and collected, sign on the dotted line and we trust iran when a lot of people in congress including a lot of americans, do not trust iran. they don't play by the rules and i think that's why they're threatened. >> mark, your take? is this a leader of a nation who said we are in grave danger we don't trust our neighbor and i'm going to do everything in my power to make sure the american congress knows exactly how i feel? >> well i think there's some truth to that but i think there's a deeper issue. this becomes a strawman argument, which is that obama trusts iran and we shouldn't trust iran. the who will part the this nuclear deal is we don't trust ran. we're going to instead the stations see how much ply ton yes, ma'am -- we're going to recon question the reactor so it's not being produced. and make sure the urain yen
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enrichment is under 5%. we can actually inspect them. that's a good thing. netanyahu has every reason tore worried about the existential state of the israel but i think he's exaggerating the threat and using it as a pretext to simply rally votes at home. >> mark -- >> he's misdemeanorling in american affairs. >> ben, very quickly, i have something i want you to address. >> is it a exaggerate when the supreme leader in iran says he wand to annihilate execute and wipe israel off the face of the earth and then you want people to believe they're going to play by the rules? those are their own words towards israel. why on earth would you think that israel would you plays this up when all they have to do is quote the leadership in iran who has said they want to anile yay, execute and wipe them off the faye of the earth into the sea, and so they will no longest
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exist. >> mark -- >> can i respond? very quickly, yes. >> you keep seeing way do you want to trust recall when iran is so baas. the nuclear pact is not predicated on trusting iran. it's predicated on not trusting recalling, versus more involvement with the iaea so you don't have to trust iran. what you see again is uranium enrichment going done being configured. you see it at far lest odds than it was three years ago. it doesn't mean that it's warm and fuzzy. it means we have work to do. >> i want you both to weigh in. my last guest said to me a a break, a point she wanted to get in she would advise the president to meet with netanyahu, especially at this time to get all the possible intelligence that we can from israel in this critical month leading up to that march 24th deadline on the nuclear
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negotiations. first to you, mark, what do you think of that? >> i agree. i think meetings are always a good thing. that was my point. i don't think anyone is arguing they shouldn't beat or he boont beat his drum as loudly as he thinks he should but i think the concern is doing it in a joint session of congress three weeks before your election -- he can meet behind the scenes. >> look the president doesn't want to hear from netanyahu. if he did he would have invited him over and been the bigger man. the realtyie is what israel will lay out to the congress and the world and the u.s. is facts and information that does not bode well for them to get an agreement. >> name one. >> i think obama's legacy he wants to say i'm the one that got a deal with iran i'm the one that closed gitmo, this is about a legacy more than it is about reality. that's that iran has never played by the rules in either of
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our lifetimes. you cannot point to a moment if our lifetime mark where they have played by the rules with the international community, the u.n. or any type of issue when it comes to nuclear reactors and that's a fact. >> ben, mark don't go anywhere. stick with me. we're going for talk about another important story just out today from cleveland, where a police officer, you may remember months ago shod and killed a 12-year-old. it turns out the 12-year-old was holding a toy gun. the city now says that rice's death was his own fault. the details of that, next. (vo) after 50 years of designing cars for crash survival, subaru has developed our most revolutionary feature yet. a car that can see trouble... ...and stop itself to avoid it. when the insurance institute for highway safety tested front crash prevention nobody beat subaru models with eyesight. not honda. not ford or any other brand.
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real gun, not a toy gun. the family is suing the police department. the police department has issued a statement that reads in part that rice's death was directly and proximately caused by the failure of the -- to exercise due care to avoid injury. the family's injuries and losses were caused by their own acts. we have reached out to the police department they told us today they have to comment. let's bring it in our panel. we talked about this when this tragedy occurred. ben, your tails first. the police department was part of a two-year investigation, and found that it had at times used unreasonable force in the past and now you've got this which the victims' attorney calls victim blaming. do you think this is a pattern, part of a pattern, or do you think this was a tragic mistake and the police department is
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correct in this response? >> i think it was a tragic mistake by the young boy to not drop the gun. obviously people felt threatened. they called the police over it. the police show up. just because 12 someone is is gerald doesn't mean they can't do harm. the jonesborrow school shooting was caused by young people. so 12-year-olds are capable of committing crimes and they can kill people if they have a gun. it's sad, it's unfortunate, but this gun did not have an orange tip on it you have to assume it's real and these police officers have a right to protect themselves. they can and police in the past in this country have been shot by 12-year-olds. >> mark, it's interesting the doj's investigation in particular was found to have used unnecessary and unreasonable force at a significant race. should that be a factor in looking at this case? >> absolutely. if a police force is known for beating people for shooting people for kits people without
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proper cause absolutely that should be a factor to weigh in. when police gave their account of what happened they didn't know there was a video table and there's also a study, ben talked about this kid -- police didn't think he was 12 years old. they thought he was closer to 20 or 21 than 12 years old. that speaks to a bigger problem. there was a study that came out in 2014 which talks about this that officers tend to see black suspects as older and more guilty than they are. so a 12-year-old boy looks like a 21-year-old man. someone who is holding a toy gun suddenly looks like his as going on a shooting spree. the officers may not have had bad intentions but their expectation, and as a consequence of that black people get killed for being young, black and outside, that itself is a fundamental problem. >> mark -- >> he wasn't killed baas he was young, black and outside.
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he was shot because he was carrying a gun they obviously wanted to make it look like a real firearm. that's why there was no orange tip. >> i want to bring that can't, exactly that. very quickly, ben, then to you mark should guns that look so real that are fake, should thought be made and sold? >> look i think that guns -- that we have rules where they're supposed to be an orange tip. >> but it was remove. >> kids many times paint over them to make that gun look real because they want it to look real on the streets. that's unfortunate. look if you want more owner, that's one thing, but ultimately people if they want to do these things they'll do it. >> mark very quickly. >> black people get killed with orange tips. they get killed versus keys skittles arizona iced tea, they get killed with their hands up. to pretend the difference of the color of the tip is unfair. white kids have guns -- police
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take oat measures. again, the sight of black bodies inspires a different response than white bodies. there are studies to prove that and as sum ich sake that's a fundamental prosh. >> thank you very much on both these topics. we're going to switch gears. there are beautiful places in the world, incredible places many of us have never seen and may never get to see. ahead we're going to take you to some paradises and talk to our very only bill weir about the premiere of "the wonder list" starting tonight.
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entirely different view of paradise you're going to want to watch cnn at 10:00 p.m. eastern tonight. it is the premiere of "the wonder list" by our very own bill weir and he take us to an incredibly breathtakingly beautiful untouched place many have never seen vanuatu. >> baby i'm so sorry to wake you up but i had to call from the most amazing spot. >> i travel the planet for the wonder list to find the most amazing places that are right on
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the brink of change. ♪ ♪ >> there's a certain kind of tourism we should be thinking about in the 21st century that allows people to celebrate their heritage and give you a taste of what they have but it doesn't turn the whole place into a strip mall. >> you are going to progress. you are going to develop, but how are you going to do that? please with respect and without being patronizing learn some of the lessons that we've already learned from the mistakes we've already made and once you move on into the future move through in a constructive and in a balanced way. >> home sweet home. >> now that is a really rough assignment. bill weir joins me now. i think the journalist with the best gig in the business. congrats my friend. it is a beautiful searies. >> thank you. >> it starts tonight. i know it was all your idea. where did it come from? >> it just came from a sense
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that the world is changing so fast. i think all parents look at their kids and wonder what's going to -- what will be left for them and i wondered for this particular episode if there was still some untouched paradises out there? islands, like maybe if you could go back in time like maui or kauai before the europeans set foot on those beaches and we found this amazing place, vanuatu and it's gorgeous and those are sneak peeks of next week and you're getting a glimpse of the galapagos. i'm lucky to work with one of the best filmmakers in the business named philip bloom who brought all of his toys and we captured some amazing images and met some amazing folks. >> you shot some cool little vines for social media. let me play one because this begs for explanation. watch.
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>> that's going to get back to the tourists. >> what? what happened? >> so these are guys on the little island of ra and they put on a -- it's called the snake dance and they have all of the face paint and body paint and they took us into the jungle and it was like visiting somebody in a foreign cathedral you know? you're afraid to speak, to be respectful there and then we realized this is their version of the same kind of floor show they put on in some of the bigger hotels. they don't have the hotels yet, but they're practicing their performances in what this ecotourism model might be for them and that's really what it comes down to. hopefully you'll discover in the end that the places we choose to go to it is possible to contribute to communities like these and still encourage them to hold on to these beautiful, cultural traditions. >> what was, personally for you in reporting this out, the most striking moment where it really
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made you reflect and think about exactly what you were doing, what you were showing and what your goal was at the end of this? >> i think it was a culmination of a lot of things. meeting folks that are completely resistant to the idea of joining the modern world. they've been to the big cities they know what we have but they prefer a much simpler way of life and other folks who think, we decide -- we like flat roads and stop lights and, you know microwave ovens. we'd like to join the rest of you and how they justify those thing, but you go from a place where people literally have everything they need and they have to catch it. they have to grow it but to get to a place like that and to fly back to the duty-free section of the airport and they see the riot of stuff that we've become accustom to and it's one of our strong points as human beings we adapt so quickly and get your new gadget out of the box and can't wait for the next model to come out and that's a way to reflect on people that start at the very beginning of the process and trying to understand what their values should be?
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>> no question about that. it certainly makes you wonder who is living more civilized, them or us? congratulations. 10:00 eastern. don't miss it. now let me bring you the live pictures of benjamin netanyahu's motorcade arriving and i believe we have that for you and our elise labott is on the line. wow! look at that security. elise, what are we seeing right now? the prime minister is arriving with his delegation at the willard hotel and just came from andrews air force base after a long flight from israel and the prime minister spending the entire flight working on this speech to congress and seeing it as a now or never moment poppy feels that this is his destiny, this is his fate to warn the world about what he sees shaping up to be a bad deal with a bad nuclear deal with iran and it will lay out the elements as he
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understands them to be and urge congress to ask questions and pressure the administration to push back that march 24th deadline saying that more discussion really needs to be had about what he says is a deal and not only dangerous for the israelis and the world. >> many thought he would have his prepared remarks before he got on the plane and there was discussion every moment while he was in the air and do you get a sense that he may have softened his tone because of the concern of some in congress and the white house about him coming here at this time or no he's sticking to his guns and this is going to be critical of the administration. >> i think he's going to soften the tone and i understand from journalists that have covered him for a long time that he'll be working on the speech up until the last minute and that's the way he works and there's been a softening of tone on both sides and you heard secretary kerry this morning after some critical comments earlier in the week that although the timing isn't really good and the prime
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minister is welcome in washington and i think they want to take the wind out of his sails a little bit and there's been so much attention to this agreement and it's only fueled speculation about what he's going to say and draw attention to iran and perhaps questions about whether this in fact is a bad deal and from the prime minister's part he knows it's a politically fraught visit and there's animosity between the white house and him in particular and his government and i feel the day after that he'll work on iran. >> quick break and he'll work with the developing story and benjamin net net. back in a moment. dband network, and cloud and hosting services - all with dedicated responsive support. with centurylink as your trusted technology partner you're free to focus on growing your business.
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